Kate Scott sits down with Bayern Munich legend and World Cup winner Thomas Müller for a wide-ranging conversation with one of football’s most unique characters.

Thomas opens up about his remarkable career, from scoring in a Champions League final to dismantling Brazil 7-1 at a World Cup. But for all the titles and trophies, he insists that competition means more than silverware - and explains why national team glory tops club success in his book.

He reflects on his relationships with managers like Pep Guardiola, and why there were no hard feelings when Bayern decided not to offer him a contract extension. Thomas also shares admiration for Cristiano Ronaldo’s longevity and how he’s come to accept that playing for Bayern at 36 isn’t the norm.

Thomas talks legacy, pressure, and why despite having no mentality coach, he has always gotten the most out of his talents. He shares his thoughts on Florian Wirtz’s move to Liverpool, being a one-club man, and the value of keeping a “normal” life outside football.

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