Kyle Meredith talks with Kevin Drew of Broken Social Scene about reuniting the sprawling collective for Hug Of Thunder, rediscovering friendship as the heart of creation, and the emotional night they played Manchester just after the attacks—with Johnny Marr joining onstage.

Then, Sadie Dupuis of Speedy Ortiz joins twice: first in 2015, when she discussed using Foil Deer to push feminism and social awareness into rock’s conversation (“I’d rather be a social justice warrior than a rich kid with a drug problem”), and again in 2018 to unpack Twerp Verse, scrapping an entire album post-election to write songs that mattered, navigating “lyrical mystery,” and how horror films inspired her monster metaphors. Both artists reflect on turning chaos into connection—and the power of art to speak when the world gets too loud.

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