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Most leaders focus on fixing processes — and the real problems aren’t technical. They’re behavioral.

In this episode, Cathy Maday, Founder, Owner & Advisor of Wingspan Performance® , and Ivan Konermann, VP & also an Advisor, pull back the curtain on the system that transforms high-stakes leaders worldwide. From construction sites to C-suites, they reveal how communication, mindset, and behavior drive every result that matters — at work and at home.

They dig into what happens when “autopilot” takes over, how emotions hold critical data for performance, and why great leaders don’t manage behavior — they practice it.

You’ll Hear:

  • How Wingspan first defined Behavioral Performance and built it “boots-on-the-ground.”
  • Why high-achievers fail when they rely too much on technical skill.
  • What emotions can tell you about your blind spots.
  • The three elements every leader must align: mindset, communication, and behavior.
  • A story of one team that cut a multi-day problem into a 15-minute breakthrough.
  • Why people are hired for skill — and fired for behavior.

Listen if you’re ready to:
✔️ Replace stress and autopilot with real influence.
✔️ Translate frustration into clarity and control.
✔️ Lead teams that perform better — because they behave better.

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