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My guests for Episode #537 of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast are Caroline Greenlee and Chris Butterworth, two of the three co-authors (with Chris Warner) of the book Why Care: How Thriving Individuals Create Thriving Cultures of Continuous Improvement Within Organizations.

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In this conversation, we discuss their experiences and lessons on building cultures of continuous improvement that are rooted in respect, caring, and psychological safety.

Caroline brings rich experience as a Lean and continuous improvement coach, having partnered with organizations across different sectors to develop people and improve performance. Her background spans leadership development, organizational behavior, and a Master's degree in human resources management.

Chris is an award-winning author, international speaker, and a certified Shingo Institute Master-level facilitator and faculty fellow. He has more than 20 years of experience coaching executive teams and helping organizations embed sustainable improvement practices, always with a deep respect for people at the center.

In this episode, we explore topics such as:

  • Practical approaches for leaders who want to build sustainable continuous improvement cultures.
  • The origin story of Why Care and its message for leaders.
  • Why caring cultures matter for both performance and people.
  • Lessons from their Shingo Publication Award recognition.
  • How psychological safety and respect for people underpin true Lean leadership.

Key Quotes

Caroline Greenlee

  • "Lean isn't just about tools or methods -- it's about people. If we don't care, we can't expect continuous improvement to last."
  • "Respect for people means creating an environment where they feel safe, supported, and able to contribute. That's when real improvement happens."

Chris Butterworth

  • "Sustainable improvement starts with caring -- for people, for culture, and for the impact of our actions. Without that, Lean can't take root."
  • "Psychological safety isn't soft; it's essential. It's what allows people to speak up, share problems, and drive meaningful change."

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