In this episode, Sarah talks to Andrew O'Brien & Hana Kapetanovic from Demos, one of the UK’s leading think tanks, to explore their ground breaking report, Taming the Wild West: How Technology Can Charter a New Frontier for Social Value.
In this interview, Andrew and Hana share their insights about the evolving role of technology in shaping the social value landscape, challenges in creating a consistent and transparent framework for social value measurement, and key recommendations for policymakers, businesses, and public sector suppliers to drive impactful change.

This conversation is packed with insights for anyone navigating the intersection of technology, policy, and social impact.

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