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Yesterday, America lost a giant. Charlie Kirk was senselessly murdered at Utah Valley State University, leaving behind his beloved wife, two children, and a conservative movement he helped shape with courage and conviction.

Two humble hosts—Sean, who worked with Charlie on several occasions, and Chris, who admired him deeply—are shattered by this loss.

Charlie was at his best when he sat at a table, challenging anyone to prove him wrong. He debated eloquently, poignantly, forcefully—but always respectfully and with kindness.

In this episode, Sean and Chris remember Charlie for who he was and what he built. Sean reflects on Charlie as the William F. Buckley of our time—creating something of lasting significance in Turning Point USA.

Together, they recognize the task now: to carry forward his legacy and expand the leadership he modeled.

And both Chris and Sean agree: the only way to overcome the wave of political violence sweeping our nation is to turn to the words of Jesus Christ—love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you. Only then will this cycle of hate and violence subside.

🙏 Charlie Kirk is a hero. Prove us wrong.

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