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In this episode Martin and Chris host Hadi Hariri and Sebastian Aigner from Jetbrains to talk about Kotlin, IDEs, world domination and many other topics. Such as politics (maybe). And protein bars and their rise to fame in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. And how Google was actually kidnapped. Confused? You should be. But don't miss this episode for the resolution of all this, fun on Google and money, programming languages and more. Much more.

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