What if getting fired was the best thing that ever happened to you? This week, Molly and Emese sit down with fashion-media powerhouses Laura Brown and Kristina O’Neill — the former editors behind InStyle and WSJ Magazine — who were both fired at the height of their careers… and turned it into their greatest comeback yet. Now authors of the buzzy new book All the Cool Girls Get Fired, they open up about the moment everything collapsed, the shock and shame no one talks about, and how they rebuilt their confidence, identity, and careers from the ground up.

They share the real behind-the-scenes stories of getting let go on Zoom, navigating money panic and health insurance, finding self-worth beyond a title, and why honesty is your greatest tool after a setback. If you’re in the middle of a layoff, thinking about a pivot, or craving a life reset you didn’t choose, this episode is your roadmap.

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