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Episode Highlights

Revisiting Moxie and how closing it deepened their understanding of AI, ethics, and learning

The balance between innovation and honesty when your business depends on what you critique

How technical knowledge led them from excitement to skepticism

Moxie “AI Sandwich” workflow and how to use AI to brainstorm and refine while keeping the human in the middle

Kimberly’s story of watching her husband evolve from using AI for tests to using it to write creative scripts for science students

The hidden costs of AI tokens, data, energy, attention, and what it means to “pay the real price”

Why the most valuable outcomes of AI may be emotional: motivation, reassurance, and calm

Rethinking productivity: what if being “more efficient” isn’t the goal?

Quotes

On understanding AI as novice vs. expert

....you can't think critically about something unless you are already an expert, unless you have some level of expertise. There came a point where we were experts enough to see… to think critically enough to say, oh, whoa, wait, hold up, hold up.

What is it worth to you?

....what would I be willing to pay if I had to pay the true cost of this? Because right now, our use of AI is fully subsidized by venture capital and these big tech companies. But if you had to pay the full cost of what that interaction was, if it's $75, would you pay for it?

Power of Choice

....what are you saying no, and what are you saying yes to? And not just in terms of financial, but all resources. Time, energy, serenity. I think about serenity as a resource for me, because I need to refill my cup. I cannot just be a yes girl, because I somehow ended up one.....what are you willing to pay for in all the different ways we pay for things, and are you saying yes to too many things?

Mirage of Productivity to Save Time

And it's just crazy to think that this is gonna give us more time, and we're gonna be more productive and more efficient. No, you're just gonna get a new task......this mirage of we'll reach so much productivity that we'll have a leisure class, it'll be a four-day work week. It's never happened, and what do you know? It's not going to happen, because that is not the culture and the system that we are in, which prioritizes growth at all costs, no matter what.

Resources

Episode 207: The Importance of Good Writing, Curiosity, Bravery, and the Process of Living

Practical AI for Educators PD for Higher Education Session 3 Breakout With Kimberly

Jessica on LinkedIn

Kimberly on LinkedIn

Link: AI Sandwich Graphic by Moxie

Book: Empire of AI

Substack: Women Writin' 'Bout AI

Podcast: Women Talkin' 'Bout AI

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