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You've probably heard "leadership versus management" debates many times, but Kristen and Mike break it down in a way that actually makes sense. This isn't about which one is better - spoiler alert: you need both. Instead, they explore how these distinct skill sets work together and why understanding the difference can transform your career. From Confucius to Navy SEALs, they share practical insights on when to lead people versus manage systems, common myths that trip up even experienced professionals, and why the best leaders toggle between both modes throughout their day. If you've ever wondered whether you're managing when you should be leading (or vice versa), this episode will give you the clarity to know which hat to wear when.
Highlights:
- The Core Distinction: Leadership = vision and inspiration ("why" and "what"). Management = operations and execution ("how")
- Kotter's Framework: Leadership establishes direction, aligns people, motivates. Management plans/budgets, organizes/staffs, controls/problem-solves
- Why Both Matter: Successful leaders toggle between both modes throughout their day
- Leadership can be learned through study and practice - you're not born with it
- Common Myths Debunked: Leadership isn't higher status than management, you can lead from any role, both require ongoing development
- The Coaching Approach: Keeps you focused on vision and mentorship while avoiding micromanagement
- Managing Systems, Leading People: Manage processes, lead and inspire the people within them
- Continuous Growth: Leadership development is lifelong, requiring constant learning and self-reflection
Links & Resources Mentioned:
- Start With Why by Simon Sinek
- Good to Great by Jim Collins
- Turn the Ship Around by Captain L. David Marquet
- The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier
- Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink
- Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara
Podcast Website: www.loveandleadershippod.com
Instagram: @loveleaderpod
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Kristen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristenbsharkey/
Mike: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-s-364970111/
Learn more about Kristen's leadership coaching and facilitation services: http://www.emboldify.com
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