Second episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s

Film was made by Michael Ellis Films

This week Kehinde introduces the episode talking about Ibrahim Traore and the importance of building a Black united front to support radical politics. He also uses Malcolm's words to warn that 'these leaders over here who are receiving the praise and pats on the back from the Americans, you can just flush the toilet and let them go right down the drain'. There is no better example of this rule than Nelson Mandela, who Malcolm would have dubbed a 'modern day Uncle Tom'.

We then play the full interview with George the Poet, at the LSE Old Theatre where Malcolm gave one of his last international speeches.

Check out George's book 'Track Record' https://afroribooks.co.uk/products/track-record-me-music-and-the-war-on-blackness-by-george-the-poet-published-25th-april-2024?srsltid=AfmBOorrftYmmf51MHUgrufsx7gtN96eIfYfS2_4lMr00PX_2US3j8cT

Have you heard George's Podcas? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07915kd/episodes/downloads

Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

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