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"If you're not treating deliverability as revenue insurance, you're already losing money." — Matt
This Hot Seat episode puts Matt McFee, an email veteran and founder of Inbox Monster, under the microscope. Jacqueline digs into how he went from Wall Street and Yahoo to co-founding BriteVerify, acquired by Validity, and why he thinks most brands are still wildly underestimating deliverability. He unpacks why inbox placement is really a revenue insurance program, not just a technical hygiene task, and why the real customer "moment of value" usually happens months after the contract is signed.
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Timestamps
01:03 – What would make Martech better?
05:22 – What 25 years in email have taught him about the inbox
07:32 – Lightbulb moment that led to found BriteVerify and Inbox Monster
11:58 – AI previews, creative rendering, and why annotations actually matter
15:48 – What marketers should be paying more attention to in deliverability
19:55 – Quantifying deliverability as a revenue insurance program for stakeholders
25:02 – Opinions on industry innovation and consolidation
28:23 – What vendors can do to better help marketers
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