Mark Hatmaker is a legend of the self-protection and martial arts world, and it was a great pleasure to listen to him speak about western martial arts, boxing, wrestling and rough'n'tumble. Support Mark's websites here: https://www.extremeselfprotection.com/ https://indigenousability.blogspot.com/ This is the last episode of the Managing Violence Podcast for a little while as I focus energies on teaching, training and designing better systems to help my clients manage the risk of violence in their workplaces. If you've enjoyed the show thus far, please consider leaving a review on your platform of choice and supporting the show at www.patreon.com/managingviolence or buying some merch at www.violencepod.com/merch Stay safe and be good to each other! We'll be back soon!