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Two accomplished Black women pull back the curtain on what it really means to navigate corporate America while carrying the DOUBLE burden of race and gender. This conversation explores the exhausting mental gymnastics required to succeed in spaces not designed for them.
Our guests share powerful stories about the necessity of code-switching – that daily performance where tone, expression, and even greeting style must be carefully calibrated to avoid triggering stereotypes. "I can't just show up and be me," one guest explains. "I have to outperform and do that dance just to be accepted." The mental toll becomes clear as they describe returning home completely drained from maintaining these performances all day.
Perhaps most revealing are the discussions about communication strategy. Black women must approach problem-solving differently than their white counterparts, sandwiching critiques between praise to avoid being labeled as "aggressive." Even more disturbing are the stories of credit theft, including another guest who was asked to write a recommendation letter for a white male colleague who received an award for her work.
The conversation takes a personal turn when discussing how these professional challenges affect relationships. Both guests explore the tension between independence developed through workplace battles and vulnerability needed in partnerships. "I had to let my guard down," one guest shares about her marriage. "If you love this man enough to say he's your husband, allow him to show up as your husband."
While acknowledging harsh realities about ongoing workplace bias, our guests offer valuable insights for young Black women entering professional spaces. Their wisdom serves as both warning and preparation for those following in their footsteps.
What emerges is a MASTERCLASS IN RESILIENCE, strategic thinking, and the unspoken tax Black women pay in pursuit of professional success. Listen now for a conversation that will change how you understand workplace dynamics forever.

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