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Today on Moment of Zen, Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja examine "failed" industrial revolutions throughout history, particularly Rome's sophisticated water-powered manufacturing, standardized production, and steam engine prototypes. The discussion explores how civilizations like Rome and Song Dynasty China achieved industrial-scale commerce and technology before ultimately plateauing or collapsing due to demographic, military, or economic constraints.
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HIGHLIGHTS OF THE DISCUSSION:
Roman Industrial Capabilities:
- Extensive use of water power for mills, ironworks, marble cutting, and mining
- Mass production of pottery (53 million amphora estimated from one Roman hill)
- Standardized parts for statues, military equipment, and containers
- Advanced metallurgy producing air pollution detectable in Greenland ice cores
Technological Sophistication:
- Hero of Alexandria created functional steam engines as early experiments
- Romans used coal for heating and had portable fire pumps
- Nanotechnology in glassware (Lycurgus Cup with gold/silver particles)
- Complex mechanical devices and automated systems
Economic Scale:
- Billion+ amphora production across the empire
- Sophisticated consumer economy with middle class purchasing power
- Standardized commerce and shipping networks across Mediterranean
- Industrial-scale mining that reshaped entire landscapes
Why They "Failed":
- Population decline removed growth incentive
- Military pressures from external forces
- Reached saturation point where demand was met
- Industrial revolutions follow S-curves that plateau without continued expansion
Broader Pattern:
- Song Dynasty China faced similar trajectory before nomadic conquests
- Large-scale commerce and state demand were prerequisites
- Water transportation networks enabled industrial development
- All required demographic/geographic growth to sustain technological advancement
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Today on Moment of Zen, Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja examine "failed" industrial revolutions throughout history, particularly Rome's sophisticated water-powered manufacturing, standardized production, and steam engine prototypes. The discussion explores how civilizations like Rome and Song Dynasty China achieved industrial-scale commerce and technology before ultimately plateauing or collapsing due to demographic, military, or economic constraints.
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HIGHLIGHTS OF THE DISCUSSION:
Roman Industrial Capabilities:
- Extensive use of water power for mills, ironworks, marble cutting, and mining
- Mass production of pottery (53 million amphora estimated from one Roman hill)
- Standardized parts for statues, military equipment, and containers
- Advanced metallurgy producing air pollution detectable in Greenland ice cores
Technological Sophistication:
- Hero of Alexandria created functional steam engines as early experiments
- Romans used coal for heating and had portable fire pumps
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Economic Scale:
- Billion+ amphora production across the empire
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- Industrial-scale mining that reshaped entire landscapes
Why They "Failed":
- Population decline removed growth incentive
- Military pressures from external forces
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- Industrial revolutions follow S-curves that plateau without continued expansion
Broader Pattern:
- Song Dynasty China faced similar trajectory before nomadic conquests
- Large-scale commerce and state demand were prerequisites
- Water transportation networks enabled industrial development
- All required demographic/geographic growth to sustain technological advancement
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