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In episode 8 of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh are joined by Naveen Mallela, Global Co-Head of Kinexys at J.P. Morgan. They discussed the vision for Kinexys, how deposit tokens like JPMD differ from stablecoins, and how interoperability, credit creation, and just-in-time liquidity will reshape global finance.

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Connect with the Hosts & Guest

Chuk Okpalugo: LinkedIn, X, stablecoinblueprint.com

Raj Parekh: LinkedIn, X, monad.xyz

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Chapters

1. Intro: Money Code Live at Money20/20 and Naveen’s background (00:00:00)

2. Why JPMorgan Bet Early on Blockchain and Tokenization (00:03:16)

3. What is Kinexys? Scope, Products, and Mandate Across the Bank (00:06:35)

4. From Single-Bank Ledger to Partior: Building Shared Infrastructure (00:07:40)

5. Universal Ledger Vision and Rethinking the Banking Stack (00:10:08)

6. Deep Dive on JPMD: How Deposit Tokens Differ from Stablecoins (00:18:38)

7. Why Branded Bank Liabilities Matter and the Case Against Consortia Coins (00:18:58)

8. Stablecoins vs Deposit Tokens: Singleness of Money, Pre-funding, and Use Cases (00:23:30)

9. Liquidity as the Bottleneck: Just-in-Time Funding, Tokenized Collateral, FX Swaps (00:29:40)

10. Closing Notes (00:36:16)

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