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You HAVE to listen to this episode all the way until the end. We discuss the reality of feeling excluded and “less than” and how this struggle is very real, even at the age of 72. Meet: Mama J
At 72 years old, Jay Patterson—known to her followers as Mama J—is proving that life doesn’t slow down with age, it simply gets funnier, deeper, and more real. From navigating alopecia as a young child and sobriety to finding her voice on stage and on screen (including a viral Netflix appearance), Jay shares how she’s learned to keep showing up for herself and for life—no matter what comes her way.
In this conversation, we talk about aging with authenticity, the highs and heartbreaks of visibility, the challenges of social media comparison, and the freedom that comes when you decide to just say yes.
Whether you’re 32 or 72, Jay’s honesty is refreshing and it will help you feel less alone in the messy middle of life.
Guest: Jay Patterson (Mama J)
Instagram: @mamaj_trust
Podcast Mentioned: Lunch Therapy with Joel Marshall and Jay Patterson — live every Tuesday at 2 PM CT / noon PT on YouTube
On aging and self-worth: Jay opens up about realizing that insecurity doesn’t vanish with age—it simply evolves—and how she’s learned to find peace in who she is.
Finding courage after setbacks: From two marriages to overcoming alcohol addiction, Jay shares what has helped her keep moving forward.
The Netflix aftermath: What it’s really like to experience sudden attention—and how she dealt with both praise and criticism online.
Faith and grounding: Both Jay and Erica talk about finding identity and confidence through their faith when social media starts to distort self-worth.
“Just say let’s go.” Jay’s advice to anyone feeling stuck? Stop saying no to life. Try the class. Join the group. Go to the art night. Just say yes.
You’re never too old to start again. Whether it’s comedy at 60 or art class at 72, creativity has no expiration date.
Comparison steals joy—but gratitude restores it.
Faith, laughter, and community are timeless lifelines.
Small risks add up. Saying “Let’s go” might be your first step to rediscovering yourself.
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