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In this conversation, Hayden and Julian delve into the upcoming season of Andor, exploring character arcs, particularly Luthen's fate and Mon Mothma's political journey. They discuss fan reactions to trailers, the narrative structure of Rogue One, and the broader themes of revolution and political organization within the Star Wars universe. The dialogue is rich with insights and differing opinions, particularly regarding the portrayal of characters and the implications of their actions. In this conversation, Julian and Hayden delve into the complexities of the Star Wars series 'Andor', discussing its unique storytelling, character depth, and the expectations for the upcoming season. They explore the show's departure from traditional Star Wars themes, the moral dilemmas faced by characters, and the potential developments for key figures like Saw Gerrera and Andor's sister. The discussion highlights the show's maturity and its ability to resonate with adult audiences, while also speculating on future plotlines and character arcs.