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The Illusion of Thinking: Do AI Models Really Reason?

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It looks incredibly impressive when a large language model explains its step-by-step thought process, giving us a window into its "mind." But what if that visible reasoning is a sophisticated illusion? This episode dives deep into a groundbreaking study on the new generation of "Large Reasoning Models" (LRMs)—AIs specifically designed to show their work.

We explore the surprising and counterintuitive findings that challenge our assumptions about machine intelligence. Discover the three distinct performance regimes where these models can "overthink" simple problems, shine on moderately complex tasks, and then experience a complete "performance collapse" when things get too hard. We'll discuss the most shocking discoveries: why models paradoxically reduce their effort when problems get harder, and why their performance doesn't improve even when they're given the exact algorithm to solve a puzzle. Is AI's reasoning ability just advanced pattern matching, or are we on the path to true artificial thought?

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This discussion is based on the findings from the Apple Machine Learning Research paper, "The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Large Language Models with Pyramids of Thought."
https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/illusion-of-thinking

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It looks incredibly impressive when a large language model explains its step-by-step thought process, giving us a window into its "mind." But what if that visible reasoning is a sophisticated illusion? This episode dives deep into a groundbreaking study on the new generation of "Large Reasoning Models" (LRMs)—AIs specifically designed to show their work.

We explore the surprising and counterintuitive findings that challenge our assumptions about machine intelligence. Discover the three distinct performance regimes where these models can "overthink" simple problems, shine on moderately complex tasks, and then experience a complete "performance collapse" when things get too hard. We'll discuss the most shocking discoveries: why models paradoxically reduce their effort when problems get harder, and why their performance doesn't improve even when they're given the exact algorithm to solve a puzzle. Is AI's reasoning ability just advanced pattern matching, or are we on the path to true artificial thought?

Reference:
This discussion is based on the findings from the Apple Machine Learning Research paper, "The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Large Language Models with Pyramids of Thought."
https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/illusion-of-thinking

  continue reading

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