We used to own things. The essential services we need to survive - things like water, trains and our energy system - used to be owned by us: the UK public. But over the last four decades, our public services have been sold off to private corporations over whom we have no control. The result? Soaring bills for us, but massive payouts to shareholders. Sewage in our waterways, but bailouts for water companies. Constantly delayed trains, but ticket prices getting higher every year. But what if it didn’t have to be like this? What if we had democratic control over the things which mattered to us? And what if this went beyond public services - to the factories, farms and markets across the UK? Ayeisha Thomas-Smith is joined by Keir Milburn, author of Radical Abundance: how to win a green democratic economy, and Frances Northrop, head of community economic power at the New Economics Foundation. Follow our Instagram: www.instagram.com/neweconomicspod/ Follow our Tiktok: www.tiktok.com/@neweconomicspod Produced by Katrina Gaffney and Margaret Welsh. The New Economics Podcast is brought to you by the New Economics Foundation. Find out more about becoming a NEF supporter at: neweconomics.org/donate/build-a-better-future New Economics Foundation is a registered charity in England and Wales. Charity No. 1055254 Music by Lee Rosevere, Free Music Archive: freemusicarchive.org/m... used under Creative Commons licence: cre​ativecom​mons​.org/​l​i​c​e​n​s​e​s​/​b​y​-​n​c​/4.0/.