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Kennedy Warne joins Kathryn from Northland, where he's been visiting a marae teaching traditional weaving. Kennedy also talks about two of the double-hulled waka of the Hawaii-based Polynesian Voyaging Society which are in New Zealand at the moment as part of a five-year circumnavigation of the Pacific. And cats have been included in the Predator Free 2050 target list - he talks about how hard it is to trap them.
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