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What if the maps we’re all using are lying to us?
In this episode we yank the curtain back and connect the dots most shows leave scattered:
- The “devouring mother” vs. “tyrannical father” archetypes now fighting for control of America’s soul
- How printed money and $38 trillion in debt quietly tax you every single day
- Why a household “poverty line” just hit $140k in parts of the country — and why almost nobody wants to admit it
- Healthcare’s textbook death spiral: community rating, third-party payer distortion, Medicare price floors, and the cartel that profits from it
- China’s century-of-humiliation memory, Belt & Road resource grabs, fentanyl pipelines, and why their planners think in 50-year chunks while we argue in 24-hour cycles
- The OODA loop as the antidote to mass psychology, narrative warfare, and orientation collapse
Three Gen Xers — Mark, Ponch, and Max Borders (Underthrow) — refuse to treat these as separate stories. Instead we stitch them into one coherent picture of unrestricted decline and show you exactly where the leverage points still exist.
If you’ve ever felt the system is rigged but couldn’t quite name how, this conversation hands you the mental models to see it clearly — and the agency to do something about it.
Watch or listen now. Then send it to the one friend who still thinks inflation is “transitory.”
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Chapters
1. Unrestricted Decline: Debt, Inflation and The Road to Serfdom (w/ Max Borders) (00:00:00)
2. Setting The Gen X Lens (00:02:50)
3. Defining Decline Through Culture (00:04:09)
4. Devouring Mother Vs Tyrannical Father (00:08:04)
5. Inflation, Debt, And Lost Signals (00:12:43)
6. Healthcare’s Death Spiral Explained (00:18:04)
7. Complex vs Complicated Systems (00:25:31)
8. Price Signals And Orientation (00:31:04)
9. Public Choice And Perverse Incentives (00:35:16)
10. Tariffs, Narratives, And Conflict (00:39:52)
11. China, History, And Strategy (00:46:26)
12. Time Horizons And Governance (00:54:21)
13. Mass Psychology And Media Frames (01:01:06)
14. Restoring Agency And Mentorship (01:08:16)
15. Closing And Next Steps (01:15:36)
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