On this episode of Off the Clock, I’m joined by my pal Caleb, who has earned a Master’s degree, is a drummer for two different bands here in Denver, a middle school English teacher, and owner of one of the finest mohawk hairstyles I have ever seen. Here’s some of what we talk about:

First Question: What is the gnarliest pit you have ever been in?

• we re-live some old times when Caleb was on the old show 7 years ago, his time living in “Casa Basura,” and compare what the hell it costs to live in this city in 2025
• tattoo talk! matchies (his matching ass tattoo story is worth the price of admission alone), distribution, firsties, etc.
• we also both a have Rise Against Siren Song of the Counterculture tattoo, so we gush about that band for a while
• former heroes of ours who turned out to be dipsh*ts, abusers, predators, or otherwise dumb*sses – also, especially f*ck Brand New
• how do we use our positions of privilege – straight, white, cis, hetero men – for greater good and to support others without privilege
• Master’s degree, job stuff, and giving young minds plenty to grapple with through literature
• how is it being in two bands? and how was it stepping in for Curly in All Waffle Trick after his unfortunate passing?
• Caleb shares his favorite authors and I chime in with a few of mine
• how much does Caleb tell the kids about his life outside of school?
• why does this scene continue to be great?
• what’s the over/under on how many songs until Caleb takes off his shirt during a set?

Punk Rock Fright Night Tickets here.

All Waffle Trick Linktree.

Younger Than Neil Linktree.

Theme song by Sorry Sweetheart.

Logo by Nebulus Visions.

Produced by Deft Communications.

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Recorded at Ratio Beerworks RINO.