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Welcome to an episode unlike any other!

Today I'm joined by Melissa Wong of Coherence Studio for a live advising session where I help her work through the age-old question: "how do I really grow my business without social media?"

Then she turns the mic around on me to dig into how Off the Grid has actually grown — and what you can learn from that process.

Tune in as we get super honest and explore:

  • Two ways we build legacy in our businesses
  • How popularity wounds surface in our marketing
  • Looking to other business owners as models for our work
  • How Off the Grid has changed as its grown
  • Why your intuition is necessary for business survival
  • What relationship marketing strategies are working in 2025
  • Why Melissa wants to be on social media & if she’s going to leave IG

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