Make Money By Not Chasing Money | Rj Kurtz, Nicole Sandalis, Emmanuel Umoh, Tchassa Kamga, Lisa Jacovsky
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"I believe the greatest way to make money is to not focus on making money, but to focus on a passion on helping somebody." - Ross
Join Niiamah (@niiamahashong), RJ Kurtz, Nicole Sandalis, Lisa Jacovsky, Tchassa Kamga, and Emmanuel Umoh for an inspiring roundtable on leveraging passion over perfection. These authentic leaders share how they've turned personal struggles into thriving businesses while embracing vulnerability and letting go of limiting beliefs.
Welcome to the Outlier's Edge Podcast, hosted by Niiamah Ashong, Founder of Outlier's Edge and Sherpa of the World of Difference. On this podcast, you'll join other high-performing unconventional leaders and entrepreneurs (aka Outliers) as they talk about leveraging what makes them different to make a difference in the world.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Host introduces roundtable
00:05 - Explains Outlier's Edge concept
00:25 - Welcomes five leaders
00:58 - RJ Kurtz introduces himself
01:21 - Discusses Real Talk podcast
01:54 - Values passion over money
02:22 - Nicole Sandalis introduces herself
02:43 - Discusses podcast Revive
03:21 - Emphasizes personal healing journey
04:24 - Lisa Jacovsky introduces herself
04:31 - Award-winning children's author
04:44 - Hosts No Limits podcast
05:25 - Creates special needs cats books
05:59 - Tchassa Kamga introduces himself
06:06 - Moved to US in 2018
06:22 - Publishes poetry collection
06:39 - Works as Salesforce admin
07:05 - Creates immigration reality content
07:42 - Emmanuel Umoh introduces himself
08:07 - Hosts Business Talk podcast
08:42 - Discusses behind-the-scenes business struggles
09:19 - Emphasizes product-market fit importance
09:48 - Shares business failure story
10:46 - Host transitions to mistakes discussion
11:16 - Asks about changed beliefs
11:52 - RJ Kurtz discusses passion over hunger
12:50 - Lisa Jacovsky agrees with passion
13:13 - Mentions children's book dreams
13:42 - No MBA needed for success
14:36 - Has published 10 books
15:53 - Emmanuel Umoh shares nine-to-five limitations
16:16 - Business needs more attention
17:15 - Discusses business growth phases
18:02 - Nicole Sandalis mentions perfectionism mistake
18:21 - Analysis paralysis stifles progress
19:33 - Tchassa Kamga discusses family support misconception
20:12 - Hard work doesn't guarantee success
20:44 - Leverage is more important
21:36 - RJ Kurtz agrees about family support
22:27 - Support comes after success
23:48 - Emmanuel Umoh emphasizes smart work
24:44 - Discusses LinkedIn strategy improvement
25:50 - Nicole Sandalis values community collaboration
26:19 - Announces new podcast concept
26:42 - Lisa Jacovsky discusses taking chances
27:30 - Work smarter not harder
28:31 - Host emphasizes leveraging strengths
29:38 - Host asks about scary projects
32:56 - Tchassa Kamga discusses teaching tech
33:37 - Fear of student responsibility
34:50 - Lisa Jacovsky shares author collaborations
35:21 - Working with unfamiliar author
36:02 - Second collaboration opportunity
36:54 - RJ Kurtz plans for law school
37:23 - High-risk education decision
37:50 - Motivated by fatherhood experience
38:11 - Wants to help fathers' rights
39:03 - Host begins wrapping up
39:44 - Final insights shared
40:02 - Lisa Jacovsky learns about family support
40:58 - Nicole Sandalis feels less alone
41:39 - Emmanuel Umoh appreciates passion's value
42:49 - Tchassa Kamga recognizes hidden stories
44:24 - RJ Kurtz values time leverage
45:59 - Host concludes the conversation
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