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In this episode of outside is Magic, I sit down with artist, mountain biker, and psychology student Serena Rio for a conversation about fear, creativity, and the art of stepping outside your comfort zone.
We talk about her evolution from graffiti and murals in New York to painting in Los Angeles, her obsession with making friends, and how mountain biking became a mirror for courage and growth. Serena opens up about overcoming fear, finding balance through meditation and movement, and how psychology is shaping her next chapter, helping artists and athletes perform at their best.
It’s an honest talk about change, curiosity, and why comfort is the enemy of growth.
outside is Magic is hosted by Christopher San Agustin.
Produced by Broken and Coastal.
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