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The one where we deconstruct the 1997 "Phoenix Lights" UFO sightings, chide sensationalist journalists, debunk UFO junk science, rebuke New Age space gurus, and learn a few things about telescopes, comet Hale-Bopp, and where in the world is Shelley Miscavige, with cult-busting journalist, editor, author, and amateur astronomer, Tony Ortega.
Click here to read "The Great UFO Cover-up", Tony's original Phoenix New Times exposé on the Phoenix Lights.
Click here to peruse Tony's Substack, "The Underground Bunker".
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Holiday Thanks / Shaming for dollars
00:02:18 Introduction
00: 13:46 Interview with Tony Ortega
01:15:33 End Credits
01:17:51 How the sausage gets made
(NOTE: for best results, these timestamps should be observed through a 10-inch Dobsonian telescope.).
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