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The Patriots turned the ball over five times against the Steelers and still ... kinda/shoulda won the game. That says a lot about many things, but the Patriots are now 1-2 and Doug Kyed and Michael Hurley are here to break it down. They have extensive thoughts about Rhamondre Stevenson and his fumbling problem, Drake Maye's good plays and brutal turnovers, the famed BOOMS and DOOMS, thoughts about Julian Edelman's and Bill Parcells' team hall of fame inductions, opinions about Mike Vrabel's philosophy on penalties, takes on J.J. Watt calling a T.J. Watt game for CBS, and much more. If you don't listen to this one, you're nuts! Sorry if that offends!!

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