In this deeply moving conversation, Gail Pope and Karen Wylie explore the profound lessons animals teach us about life, love, and spirituality as we care for them through the dying process.

Gail reflects on how decades of animal hospice work at BrightHaven has shaped who she is as a person, teaching her kindness, gratitude, and how to offer loving kindness to both animals and people. Karen shares her personal experiences of sensing when animals are transitioning between body and soul, describing the moment caregivers begin caring for two parts of their pet simultaneously—the physical body and the spiritual essence.

This episode addresses the split awareness many caregivers experience during active dying, when they can sense both their pet's physical body and their departing spirit. Gail and Karen discuss deathbed visions in animals, the possibility of souls stepping in and out of bodies during the dying process (as Gail witnessed with her beloved Frazier), and the profound "heart and soul connection" that transforms how we understand death itself.

Key insights include:

• How caring for dying animals teaches us to be more present and less afraid of death
• Recognizing when pets are "one foot in, one foot out" between worlds
• The caregiver's responsibility to help the soul transition, not just care for the body
• Understanding the "silver cord" and learning to let it go rather than cut it
• How the loss of our animals often leads us into greater spiritual awareness
• Why accepting the circle of life allows for continuing bonds after death

🐾Whether you're currently caring for an aging or ill pet, grieving a loss, or simply seeking to understand the deeper meaning of the human-animal bond, this conversation offers comfort, validation, and hope.💜

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📌About the Hosts:

💜 Karen Wylie, EdD is Executive Director of Animal Hospice Group and Co-Founder of BrightHaven Caregiver Academy. She specializes in caregiver education and emotional support for pet parents navigating chronic illness, hospice, and end-of-life care.

💜 Gail Pope is Founder and President of BrightHaven, a nonprofit animal sanctuary and hospice with over 30 years of experience in holistic care and natural passing. She is internationally recognized for her pioneering work in animal hospice care.

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