What keeps great people from leaving? For Roggen Frick, it’s all about replacing chaos with predictability. In this episode of People-First Builders, host Fletcher Wimbush sits down with Roggen to explore how structure, consistency, and clear systems create trust, reduce turnover, and build loyalty in the construction industry.

Roggen shares practical strategies leaders can use to strengthen retention by setting expectations, creating accountability, and giving teams the stability they need to thrive—even in high-pressure environments.

Roggen’s journey highlights the shift many leaders must make—from reacting to daily fires to proactively building systems that empower their teams. By focusing on predictability, he demonstrates how leaders can reduce stress, create a healthier work environment, and inspire long-term commitment from employees who feel supported and valued.

If you’re leading in construction or any people-focused business, this conversation will show you why predictable systems aren’t boring—they’re the foundation for growth, culture, and keeping your best people.