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PART 2
In this raw and necessary conversation, DestinyShanee and guest Pryme unpack one of the deepest truths in modern relationships:
“The type of men Black women want, they’re not ready for — and the type of women Black men want, they’re not ready for either. Why? Because there’s been no healing.”
Together, they trace the breakage of the Black family from historical trauma to modern-day dating struggles. From slavery’s forced separations to mass incarceration, from single-parent homes to emotional walls built for survival — this episode explores how unhealed wounds shape love, trust, and partnership today.
This isn’t about blame. It’s about healing, accountability, and the power of restored Black love.
Episode Highlights
- Where Did the Break Begin?
- Historical roots of the broken Black family — slavery, Jim Crow, mass incarceration, and systemic poverty — and how they still influence love today.
- What We Want vs. What We’re Ready For
- Desire without healing — how expectations clash with emotional readiness for both men and women.
- Red Flags & Green Flags
- Spotting the difference between emotional manipulation and genuine healing.
- Empowerment Takeaway
- “Black men and women aren’t enemies; we’re wounded allies who need each other to rebuild.”
Key Quotes
- “Love without healing feels like war.”
- “Submission requires safety; leadership requires trust.”
- “You can’t ask for love you’ve never learned to receive.”
- “Heal first, then love — that’s the new standard.”
Why You Should Listen
If you’ve ever felt caught between independence and intimacy, this episode will help you see love through a new lens — one rooted in healing, not hurt.
It’s a heart-to-heart for anyone ready to break generational cycles and build partnerships that feel safe, strong, and sacred.
Come learn about how we are all Chocolate State Of Mind: CSOM
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