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What does a TOPGUN instructor, a Marine forward air controller in Ramadi, and the only Marine to ever fly the F-22 Raptor all have in common?
One man–Dave Berke–and a lifetime of lessons on what leadership really looks like.
Aaron Hale sits down with retired Marine Colonel Berke, a fighter pilot and ground combat leader who's spent his career making hard calls in places where mistakes cost lives. From carrier decks to close air support in Ramadi, Berke learned early that complacency is deadly and humility keeps you alive.
Berke shares stories from the cockpit, the streets, and the moments that changed him…including the loss of a Marine under his command, the rooftop fight that shifted how he leads, and the TOPGUN flight that redefined accountability.
He also dives into why small corrections prevent big problems, what TOPGUN really teaches, and how preemptive ownership can strengthen your family, your team, and your life.
If you're looking to lead with more clarity, courage, and purpose, this conversation delivers the kind of lessons you don't forget.
0:00 Intro 0:33 Dave Berke's Marine Corps origin story 1:54 Becoming a pilot 4:11 The military "path" and fighting complacency 6:08 Carrier landings, fear of correction, and the danger of hiding mistakes 8:05 The lesson that changed his flying forever 12:18 The long road to TOPGUN & what it really teaches 17:34 The graduation flight that redefined leadership 24:36 Choosing to leave the cockpit for ground combat 29:54 First missions in Ramadi and blending air/ground leadership 36:04 First mission with Jocko & Leif 39:20 Losing Cpl. Chris Leon & the weight of command 42:44 Extreme ownership vs. preemptive ownership 52:13 Meltdown in the simulator 57:13 Commanding the Air Force's Raptor division as a Marine 1:00:21 Countdown to Impact
Resources Mentioned:📚Extreme Ownership - Jocko Willink & Leif Babin https://amzn.to/48s4dEZ 📚Leadership Strategy and Tactics Field Manual - Jocko Willink https://amzn.to/4rxdt3k 📚The Need to Lead - Dave Berke https://amzn.to/4iwt7aU
Connect with Dave: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidrberke/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidrberke/ Echelon Front: https://echelonfront.com/instructors/dave-berke/
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