In this episode, we talk about the realities of continuing to pastor people from a distance. We focus on our need for solitude and sabbath. We talk about all the idea that even though we may have time on our hands, it may be difficult for us to find rest and solitude. It is the one where we realize that being constantly connected leaves us longing solitude and silence even if we often avoid it at all costs. Ultimately, it is the one where we offer our thoughts on self-care during a pandemic for both pastors and lay-people!