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How can business help solve society’s biggest challenges? Welcome to Take on Tomorrow, the award-winning podcast from PwC that examines the biggest problems facing society and the role business can—and should—play in solving them. Hosts Femi Oke and Lizzie O’Leary talk to industry innovators, tech trailblazers and visionary leaders from around the globe about timely topics: from the climate transition to AI and data; and from the future of food to how we build, move and power the world.
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Jonathan Reams, PhD, is currently doing action research projects exploring how to scale micro-skill development for habituating core leadership practices. He approaches this work drawing on experiences from holding a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) from 2007 until 2024, serving as editor-in-chief of Integral Review from 2005 to 2023, and being chief creative officer at the Center for Transformative Leadership and Adeptify.
A Few Quotes From This Episode
- "You may think your inner state is invisible, but you can’t hide it.”
- “The success of the intervention is primarily due to the interior condition of the intervener.”
- “Resilience isn’t about bouncing back to normal—it’s about expanding your capacity.”
- “Leaders create the weather. Your energy is the signal everyone else reads first.”
- “Knowing about something isn’t the same as learning how to do it.”
Resources Mentioned in This Episode
- Article: Amal and Berndt’s paper on the knowing–doing gap
- Book: An Everyone Culture by Kegan and Lahey
- Book: The Outward Mindset by The Arbinger Institute
- Book: Theory U by Otto Scharmer
- Organization: HeartMath Institute
- Tool: MindLog by Theo Dawson
About The International Leadership Association (ILA)
- The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for Prague - October 15-18, 2025!
About Scott J. Allen
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- The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
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Chapters
1. Welcome to Episode 300 (00:00:00)
2. The Challenge of Training Transfer (00:06:25)
3. Rethinking Leadership Development (00:10:23)
4. The Interior Condition of Leaders (00:18:52)
5. Building Resilience Through Reflection (00:27:09)
6. Creating Habits of Mind (00:35:15)
7. Final Thoughts on Leadership Energy (00:40:51)
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