We’re going to let you into a little secret::::::How you talk to people matters more than anything. Now that you have found the mole within your organisation, you need to be careful how you interact with them to ensure they stay on your side.

Your mission if you chose to accept it, is to follow the engagement approach set out.

Here is our advice:

- Be nice to them at all times, they are your ally

- Get hold of their email address and even after you’ve talked, send them a nice email with everything set out.

- Remember; that you can say anything you want, but the officer cannot, this is the very reason for this podcast being secret. Be mindful that due to working in a political organisation they will be restricted in what they can say to you, even whether they can outwardly agree with your point of view.

- Share with them all your ideas, don’t be disillusioned into thinking that they are not listening. It is very likely they will be quietly delighted that you have given them some ideas.

- Provide data, reference legislation or examples from other similar public sector organisations are the best.

- Public bodies thrive on good PR, show how that organisation could either be the first to do something, or where they could be shamed into being late to the party.

Remember; Your ideas may not feature in a future report or programme, this could be for a range of reasons and not necessarily because the mole you are speaking to does not agree.