FULL INTERVIEW: Ngāti Kahungunu chair Bayden Barber is calling for reconciliation after Te Pāti Māori's national council expelled MPs Mariameno Kapa-Kingi and Tākuta Ferris. . Barber, who is trying to broker a peace deal between the factions of the party for the Iwi Chairs Forum, says the unrest has been "pretty damaging" for Māori as a whole. As iwi grapple with the consequences of Government policy, he says Te Pāti Māori needs to focus on the bigger picture rather than fight among themselves. . Barber says the party "haven't taken heed" of the Iwi Chairs Forum's calls for reconciliation. Q+A asks him what that reveals about how Te Pāti Māori views iwi leaders, and whether John Tamihere can remain president of a united Māori party. . Join Jack Tame and the Q+A team and find the answers to the questions that matter. Made with the support of NZ on Air.