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In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with the iconic Saundra Davis — master certified coach, financial well-being expert, and founder of Sage Financial Solutions — to explore the deeper layers of money, mindset, and human behavior.
Sandra shares her powerful journey from financial planning to financial coaching, unpacking why knowledge alone isn’t enough to create change — and how understanding our “money parts” through the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model can transform both our personal and professional relationships with money.
Together, they dive into:
- How different parts of ourselves — the saver, the spender, the worrier, the giver — all try to protect us in their own ways
- What it means to lead from our Self in financial decision-making
- How to bring compassion, cultural humility, and mindfulness into client work
- Why continuous learning, reflection, and safe community spaces like the AFCPE Symposium are vital for financial professionals
Whether you’re a coach, counselor, planner, or simply someone striving to make peace with money, this episode will leave you inspired to meet every “part” of yourself — and your clients — with grace, curiosity, and compassion.
Show Notes:
03:24 Saundra’s Journey into Financial Coaching
06:18 The Framework of IFS (Internal Family Systems)
11:57 How to Heal Your Money Parts
28:37 A Behind-the-Scenes Look at Saundra’s Pre-Conference Session
36:37 Saundra’s Two Cents
Show Notes Links:
Listening When Parts Speak by Tamala Floyd
No Bad Parts by Richard Schwartz
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