In this gripping episode of Real Talk Real Change with Ryan Langkilde, Ryan sits down with Riaan Swiegelaar, former co-founder and spokesperson for the South African Satanic Church. Riaan shares his astonishing journey: 15 years spent as a professional practitioner in the occult, five years at the forefront of Satanism in South Africa, and the radical encounter with the love of Jesus that changed everything.

Ryan and Riaan have a real, unscripted conversation about what’s really happening with occult and Satanic activity in South Africa, how the spiritual world operates, and why Christians often underestimate both the reality and power of spiritual warfare. Riaan exposes common misconceptions about Satanism, explains how seemingly “innocent” spiritual practices can open doors to darkness, and warns about the very real spiritual battles taking place all around us.

But above all, this episode is about hope. Riaan testifies to the relentless love of God that reached him even at his darkest, the power of prayer, and the reality that no one is beyond redemption. Ryan and Riaan also share practical advice for Christians who want to stand strong, pray effectively, and live in the victory Jesus won for us.

Whether you’re curious, skeptical, or searching for hope yourself, you’ll find this conversation raw, challenging, and full of truth.