In this episode we welcome Jim Wallis, a writer, teacher, preacher and justice advocate who believes the gospel of Jesus must be emancipated from its cultural and political captivities. He is a New York Times bestselling author, public theologian, preacher and commentator on ethics and public life. He is the inaugural holder of the Chair in Faith and Justice and the founding Director of the Georgetown University Center on Faith and Justice. He is the founder of Sojourners, and is the author of 12 books and host of the popular podcast The Soul of the Nation.

Jim and I discuss his faith journey, his founding the Sojourner community and magazine, his current role as the Desmond Tutu Chair for Faith and Justice at Georgetown University, lessons he learned from Bishop Tutu in South Africa, the difference between hope and optimism, and the importance of integrating faith with the pursuit of justice. Our dialogue delves into responding to Christian nationalism, advocating for the poor, and maintaining hope in challenging times.

Guest Links

• Center on Faith & Justice at Georgetown University
• The Jim Wallis Podcast: Soul of a Nation
• Books
• Substack Blog
• Facebook
• Bluesky (@revjimwallis.bsky.social)
• X / Twitter (@jimwallis)