In this demi-sode, Gwen & Kate discuss the benefits of pushing ourselves out of our comfort zones as Kate tells us about the screening of her documentary about the melting Mer de Glace glacier in the French Alps; Gwen talks about the importance of doing something different to rewire our brains, even if it's little stuff. And Kate tells us about shoulder seasons! Is it winter? Or autumn-winter or spring-winter? Plus listener shoutouts!

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