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Ben Bajarin considers Apple (AAPL) a "pinnacle of innovation" for hardware. He believes investors want to see that same innovation on the software end, particularly through A.I. and Siri. He sees potential partnerships with Anthropic or OpenAI as ways Apple can elongate its A.I. cycle. Ben also discusses why Apple may be trying to sell more Macs and iPads into its fall hardware launches. Tom White gives investors a bullish and bearish example options trade for Apple.

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