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Oral Argument: Oklahoma Statewide Charter School Board v. Drummond | Case No. 24-394 | Date Argued: 4/30/25
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Case Info: Oklahoma Statewide Charter School Board v. Drummond | Case No. 24-394 | Date Argued: 4/30/25
Link to Docket: Here.
Background:
This Court has "repeatedly held that a State violates the Free Exercise Clause when it excludes religious observers from otherwise available public benefits." Carson as next friend of O. C. v. Makin, 596 U.S. 767, 778 (2022). Three times, the Court has applied that principle to strike down "state efforts to withhold otherwise available public benefits from religious organizations." Id. at 778-79 (citing Trinity Lutheran Church of Columbia, Inc. v. Comer, 582 U.S. 449 (2017); Espinoza v. Mont. Dep't of Revenue, 591 U.S. 464 (2020)).
Contrary to those precedents, the Oklahoma Supreme Court held that a state can exclude privately owned and operated religious charter schools from its charter-school program by enforcing state-law bans on "sectarian" and religiously affiliated charter schools. The court also held that a charter school engages in state action for constitutional purposes when it contracts with the state to provide publicly funded education.
Questions Presented:
- Whether the academic and pedagogical choices of a privately owned and run school constitute state action simply because it contracts with the state to offer a free educational option for interested students.
- Whether a state violates the Free Exercise Clause by excluding privately run religious schools from the state's charter-school program solely because the schools are religious, or whether a state can justify such an exclusion by invoking anti-establishment interests that go further than the Establishment Clause requires.
Host Notes: Justice Barrett did not participate in this case. Also, this case was consolidated with St. Isidore of Seville Sch. v. Drummond, Case No. 24-396.
Oral Advocates:
- For Petitioners in 24-394: James A. Campbell
- For Petitioner in 24-396: Michael H. McGinley
- For United States, as Amicus Curiae: D. John Sauer, Solicitor General, Department of Justice
- For Respondent: Gregory G. Garre
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:08 Petitioner (in 24-394) Opening Statement Begins
2:00 Petitioner Free for All Questions Begins
11:10 Petitioner Sequential Questions Begin
37:16 Petitioner Questions End, Petitioner (in 24-396) Opening Statement Begins
38:28 Petitioner Free for All Questions Begin
44:57 Petitioner Sequential Questions Begin
58:15, Petitioner Questions End, Government (as Amicus Curiae) Opening Statement Begins
59:13 Government Free for All Questions Begin
1:08:32 Government Sequential Questions Begin
1:17:33 Government Questions End, Respondent Opening Statement Begins
1:20:01 Respondent Free for All Questions Begin
1:48:30 Respondent Sequential Questions Begin
2:08:50 Respondent Questions End, Petitioner Rebuttal Begins
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