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Behind the Curtain of the Amazon Agency World I Part 2

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In this powerful and brutally honest episode of Seller Sessions, Danny McMillan sits down with Dorian Gorski, a seasoned agency founder, to pull the curtain back on the gritty reality of running an Amazon agency in today's commoditized, AI-driven landscape.

🔥 Key Topics & Insights

The Brutal Shift in the Agency Landscape

  • Danny doesn't sugarcoat it: “I’d rather die than jump on Clown World on LinkedIn selling magical strategies.”

  • He opens up about laying off half his agency team, not as a failure, but as a strategic pivot. "I helped get them placed in jobs – and we are working on new tech to compliment PPC and ranking "

  • With the rise of AI and automation, old models are collapsing. Agencies that once thrived on manual work now face clients expecting more, for less.

AI Is Not the Threat — Poor Strategy Is

  • Dorian emphasizes that AI isn’t the enemy — misuse is: "If you use AI to make life better for you and your clients, you’re going to win."

  • He notes his own agency now charges 30-40% less than four years ago, but delivers more, faster, and better.

From Creative to Conversion Agency

  • Dorian drops a game-changing perspective: “We’re no longer a creative agency — we’re a conversion agency.”

  • It's not about fancy visuals anymore. The north star is results — better conversion rates and click-throughs.

  • Every designer and copywriter on his team is in touch with the client, driven by data, not output.

⚖️ Honest Talk on Business Models

Free Trials? A Trap.

  • Danny warns about the lure of performance-only models: “The front end looks attractive, but on the back end, it’s Hunger Games.”

  • These models cherry-pick winners, leaving a trail of burnt-out sellers with wasted time and broken campaigns.

Why Reputation Matters

  • “One client can take you on a journey you can't imagine,” says Dorian, encouraging agencies to focus on fewer, better-fit clients.

  • He scaled down from 30 clients to just 5–6, with a leaner team and bigger impact.

💬 Insightful Quotes

  • Danny: "Margins are being squeezed. It’s a bloodbath out there."

  • Dorian: "As long as you deliver results at a good ROI, you’ve got nothing to worry about."

  • Danny: “Anyone can get you to the top of the page. But if your product doesn’t convert, it’s worthless.”

🔚 Final Thoughts

This is not a fluff piece. It’s a deep dive into the realities of running an Amazon agency in 2025 — where ethics, efficiency, and execution are the only things that matter. Whether you're a seller looking for an agency, or an agency leader yourself, this episode is a must-listen blueprint for surviving the AI and automation storm.

  continue reading

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Content provided by Danny McMillan. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Danny McMillan or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://staging.podcastplayer.com/legal.

In this powerful and brutally honest episode of Seller Sessions, Danny McMillan sits down with Dorian Gorski, a seasoned agency founder, to pull the curtain back on the gritty reality of running an Amazon agency in today's commoditized, AI-driven landscape.

🔥 Key Topics & Insights

The Brutal Shift in the Agency Landscape

  • Danny doesn't sugarcoat it: “I’d rather die than jump on Clown World on LinkedIn selling magical strategies.”

  • He opens up about laying off half his agency team, not as a failure, but as a strategic pivot. "I helped get them placed in jobs – and we are working on new tech to compliment PPC and ranking "

  • With the rise of AI and automation, old models are collapsing. Agencies that once thrived on manual work now face clients expecting more, for less.

AI Is Not the Threat — Poor Strategy Is

  • Dorian emphasizes that AI isn’t the enemy — misuse is: "If you use AI to make life better for you and your clients, you’re going to win."

  • He notes his own agency now charges 30-40% less than four years ago, but delivers more, faster, and better.

From Creative to Conversion Agency

  • Dorian drops a game-changing perspective: “We’re no longer a creative agency — we’re a conversion agency.”

  • It's not about fancy visuals anymore. The north star is results — better conversion rates and click-throughs.

  • Every designer and copywriter on his team is in touch with the client, driven by data, not output.

⚖️ Honest Talk on Business Models

Free Trials? A Trap.

  • Danny warns about the lure of performance-only models: “The front end looks attractive, but on the back end, it’s Hunger Games.”

  • These models cherry-pick winners, leaving a trail of burnt-out sellers with wasted time and broken campaigns.

Why Reputation Matters

  • “One client can take you on a journey you can't imagine,” says Dorian, encouraging agencies to focus on fewer, better-fit clients.

  • He scaled down from 30 clients to just 5–6, with a leaner team and bigger impact.

💬 Insightful Quotes

  • Danny: "Margins are being squeezed. It’s a bloodbath out there."

  • Dorian: "As long as you deliver results at a good ROI, you’ve got nothing to worry about."

  • Danny: “Anyone can get you to the top of the page. But if your product doesn’t convert, it’s worthless.”

🔚 Final Thoughts

This is not a fluff piece. It’s a deep dive into the realities of running an Amazon agency in 2025 — where ethics, efficiency, and execution are the only things that matter. Whether you're a seller looking for an agency, or an agency leader yourself, this episode is a must-listen blueprint for surviving the AI and automation storm.

  continue reading

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