This episode is a little different—and deeply personal. Forrest welcomes author, actor, and full-time son Mark Steven Porro, whose memoir A Cup of Tea on the Commode tells the moving (and surprisingly hilarious) story of becoming a caregiver to his 90-year-old mother. With Forrest recently saying goodbye to his own beloved mom, this conversation doubles as a tribute to the women who raised us—with sass, grit, and, eventually, a taste for red wine.

From Hollywood sets to cobblestone streets in the south of France, Mark shares the unexpected twists that led him from acting to elder care to wine-sipping village life. There’s laughter, there’s love, and there’s a jazz band literally marching through the vineyards.