In this episode, financial therapy pioneer Bari Tessler joins us to explore the deep connections between money, shame, and relationships. Hear how money stories and family lineage shape financial behaviors, why couples often polarize around money, and how the Enneagram can offer insight into financial dynamics. Bari emphasizes the power of financial therapy and somatic practices in healing and empowerment around money.

“The Art Of We” podcast with Krista Van Derveer and Dr. Will Van Derveer

(00:00) Money stories and lineage influences

(00:23) Intro to Bari Tessler

(04:27) Life phases & money decisions

(06:07) Navigating income fluctuations

(07:36) The power of open financial conversations in couples

(08:38) Understanding money shame & its impact

(10:52) Why somatic therapy & financial therapy

(13:05) Healing shame about money

(14:50) Somatic awareness & money conversations

(20:52) Money struggles in helping professions

(25:48) Family & culture influences on money

(27:13) Enneagram types & money

(30:39) How money work reveals new insights in partnerships

(31:58) Why couples polarize around money

(36:05) Identifying financial polarizations in couples

(36:38) Introduction to Couples Money Dates for financial alignment

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Resources Mentioned:

• Our Top 10 Relationship Agreements
• Bari Tessler: The Art Of Money
• Couples Therapy on ShowTime

• The Art Of We Website
• The Art of We Instagram
• Integrative Psychiatry Institute: Psychedelic Therapy Training

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