In this powerful episode, Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse, founder of the Ruth Institute and author of The Sexual State: How Elite Ideologies Are Destroying Lives, joins the show from the Change Movement conference in California. The conversation centers around individuals who have left behind LGBTQ lifestyles and identities, often after profound encounters with faith and community.

Dr. Morse describes the testimonies of several people who spoke on the steps of the California State Capitol—stories marked by deep personal transformation, a longing for family, and spiritual awakening. The discussion also touches on the societal shift in attitudes toward sexuality and gender over recent decades, the role of media in shaping cultural norms, and the challenges of speaking out in today's environment.

She reflects on the early capture of institutions like the American Psychological Association by activist ideologies and explains how recent developments—especially around the transgender movement—are causing some to reconsider what was once seen as a “settled” cultural narrative.