Frank and Thomas unpack the Peacemaker Season 2 finale, from John Cena’s performance to the big-picture DCU setup. They dig into Salvation Run and Checkmate, how the metahumans vs. government angle points toward Superman, and why this episode feels more like a bridge to Season 3. Along the way, they talk Vigilante’s MVP moments, Harcourt’s arc, Lex Luthor’s influence on Rick Flag, and whether multiverse storytelling still works.

Timestamps & Topics

• 00:00 — Welcome back and life update from Thomas; setting the table for the finale chat

• 00:55 — James Gunn’s podcast, fathers and sons, and why that matters to Chris and Adebayo

• 02:21 — First impressions: great performances, odd placement for a “finale” episode

• 04:34 — Will there be a Season 3 and where this could continue in the DCU slate

• 05:16 — The Superman tie-in: metahumans vs. government, framing the next phase

• 06:06 — Salvation Run explained, Checkmate connections, and deep-cut DC lore

• 08:31 — Quantum doors and the “QC” device; quick tour of the multiverse worlds

• 10:13 — Why the multiverse still works here and how Gunn is trusting the audience

• 11:12 — That black-hole world and callbacks to the new DCU’s prison ideas

• 12:01 — Rick Flag’s heel turn and the debate over Lex’s manipulation

• 14:10 — Government vs. metahumans as a DCU driver; room for Batman later

• 16:02 — Waller, Task Force X, and where Checkmate fits in public vs. shadow ops

• 18:00 — Vigilante praise, Fleury chemistry, and why the side cast still matters

• 20:06 — Chris and Adebayo’s “you made me feel loved” scene; mixed reactions

• 21:30 — Harcourt’s arc, the boat, and the kiss that did not shock the internet

• 24:02 — Expectation traps, Earth X sleuthing, and fan predictions vs. payoff

• 28:06 — Is Nicholas Hoult scary enough as Lex yet

• 31:04 — Judo Master, Langston Fleury, and Checkmate as a home for “good but messy” heroes

• 32:18 — Final thoughts: Season 1 vs. Season 2, and what is next for DC on TV

Key Takeaways

• The finale plays like a handoff, setting up Superman and a broader DCU conflict rather than closing Season 2 cleanly.

• Salvation Run and Checkmate point to deeper DC lore and a clear government vs. metahuman story.

• John Cena carries the heart and humor; Vigilante continues to be a stealth MVP.

• Lex’s off-screen sway over Rick Flag divides opinion but supports a long game for the character.

• The multiverse beats land because they are visual, simple, and high-stakes without heavy exposition.

Quotes

• “John Cena is so lovable. I want to hug him and watch him wreck shop.”

• “Episode 7 felt like the true finale. This one felt like a plus-one.”

• “Salvation is basically a planet of villains trying to rule each other.”

• “Government vs. metahumans sets the stage for Superman and maybe even Batman.”

• “Vigilante’s joy is so raw and kid-like that it weirdly grounds the show.”

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