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Kari and Lisa sit down with Kari’s longtime friend and disability rights advocate Coleen Carey for an honest, urgent conversation about inclusion—what it really means, why it matters, and what’s at risk for the disability community right now. From the personal to the political, Coleen shares her powerful journey from tech executive to full-time advocate and mother, offering insight into the systems we take for granted and what it looks like to truly fight for dignity and equity.

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