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On today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host, founding drummer of “Maroon 5”, and as of now… officially licensed therapist, Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for an eye-opening conversation with David Robson, a fantastic Science Journalist known for “The Laws of Connection”.

Despite growing up with terrible social anxiety, David has become an incredible writer and speaker. His ideas will change the way that you think about the mind, and in this episode, the three men discuss several of the laws of connection he writes about in his books, including “The Liking Gap”, the “Beautiful Mess Effect” and more.

As Duck points out, we are all the “Stars of our own Movies”, and as such we immediately tend to be harder on ourselves than we are on anyone else. We think that people don’t like us, and we’re quick to point out all of our own flaws. David’s science cracks open the ways that we are able to better connect with others, and moreover, why very intelligent people can be drawn to conspiracy theories, cults, and more.

It is one of the most fascinating episodes yet on the “Harder to Breathe” Podcast, and will quickly change the way that you look at the mind, social connection, and how the two are intrinsically linked with one another.

0:00:36 Introduction & Officially Licensed!

0:04:07 Seeking Validation

0:07:36 The Six-Year Journey

0:09:20 Finding the Positivity & Healthy Apologies

0:15:06 Navigating Fundamental Disagreements Within Society

0:19:51 Today’s Guest: David Robson

0:21:06 “Severance”: What Would You “Sever” from Your Life?

0:27:21 David Robson Joins the Podcast & Duck’s Anticipation

0:28:31 David’s Extensive Background

0:30:08 The “Science of Shyness” & The “Liking Gap”

0:38:51 The “Beautiful Mess” Effect

0:41:01 Seeking Human Connection

0:48:20 David’s Book: “The Laws of Connection”

0:55:21 Boundaries Within Family Relationships

1:02:56 “The Intelligence Trap”

1:07:21 Falling Prey to Motivated Reasoning

1:10:56 Mob Mentality

1:14:37 The Ultimate Catfish

1:16:31 “The Expectation Effect”

1:24:39 Absolving Yourself of Shame

1:31:31 Embracing Public Speaking from Shyness

1:389:18 Wrap Up & Conclusion

More on David Robson:

Official Website: https://davidrobson.me/

David’s Substack “60 Seconds of Psychology”: https://substack.com/@davidarobson

David’s Books: https://davidrobson.me/books/

X: https://x.com/d_a_robson?mx=2

Ready to Dive Deeper?:

https://www.ryandusick.com/

BenBella Books Author Page - https://benbellabooks.com/authors/dusick-ryan/

Amazon Book Page - https://www.amazon.com/Harder-Breathe-Memoir-Finding-Recovery/dp/1637742339/

WWSG Speaker Page - https://wwsg.com/speakers/ryan-dusick/

Psychology Today Therapist Profile - https://www.psychologytoday.com/profile/937599

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