Vellum Mortgage Principal Patrick Gardner and Ardley Founder & CEO Nate Den Herder join their buddies Jonathan Lawless and Jeremy Potter for a special in-person, Horse Soldier Bourbon-fueled edition of Housing Insiders. Gardner founded Vellum Mortgage to provide transparency and speed to borrowers. After working alongside Gardner for more than two years, Den Herder split off from Vellum to found Ardley, an enterprise-level mortgage intelligence and automation platform for lenders. The Fantastic Four attempt to break the mortgage model as we know it, revealing what needs to change to make mortgages better for all. Hear the biggest threat to new technologies in the housing industry, how mortgage companies actually win customers, why nobody can build a digital mortgage, how to crack the decades of systems built around the current mortgage model, and whether you should trust an AI appraiser.

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